Real conversations. Real people. No filters.

We’re back for Season 2 and we’re louder than ever. Off Mute is a podcast for marketers that’s bigger than marketing (and never, ever boring.)

Every other Wednesday, hosts Obele and Zach sit down with some of the most influential players in CPG, Tech, Media, and D2C to get them to open up about what’s really on their minds. We may be Performance Marketers, but you won’t hear us talking about CTR, PPC or CPC.

Instead, you’ll get bold predictions, like VP of Social for One United Bank Rochelle Hinds’ ideas about how social media will one day do more good than harm. And you’ll be privy to insider tips like where Infatuation co-founder Andrew Steinthal gets the best burritos in San Francisco.


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Meet The Hosts

Obele brown-west


An award-winning, best-of-list frequenting, conference-keynoting, multi-hyphenating marketer, Obele shares her digital media wisdom both on and off stage and now through your new favorite podcast. Leading national and global brands to market share victory, she has spearheaded successful marketing initiatives with Fortune 100 and 500 companies like TracFone Wireless, United Airlines, and Mattel Brands.

Zach Morrison


A founder of the largest independent digital marketing agency, industry visionary, philanthropist, and emphatic commentator, there isn’t much Zach doesn’t have a thoughtful opinion about. As the CEO and board member of Tinuiti, he regularly pops up in publications like Forbes, USA Today and Wall Street Journal.


Quyen Chang

Global Head of Revenue Enablement, Airbnb

In the last episode of the season, Quyen Chang, Global Head of Revenue Enablement at Airbnb, joins Obele and Zach in thoughtful conversation about diversity, technology, and leading a balanced life.

Watchen Nyanue

SVP, Marketing Partnerships at Chicago Sky WNBA

This week, Obele and Zach have one of the most candid conversations to date with Watchen Nyanue, the SVP, Marketing Partnerships at Chicago Sky WNBA and the Founder and CEO of I Choose the Ladder. In a rare moment, Zach is left speechless by Watchen’s response to what she would need to start a new business. Listen in as the conversation covers supporting black women, the challenges of brand marketing, and the need for work-life balance.

Michelle Wong

Chief Marketing Officer, Sprinkles Cupcakes

This week, Obele and Zach are breaking all of the rules with the new CMO of Sprinkles Cupcakes, Michelle Wong. Join us as they discuss everything from how the voice of advertising will continue to change to liver Pâté, Zach’s secrets to success and beyond.

Jodi Daniels

Founder & CEO, Red Clover Associates

WTF is Privacy anyway? This week, Obele and guest co-host, Marketing Technologist Nirish Parsad are joined by privacy practitioner Jodi Daniels for a conversation on IOS14, the future of cookies and why data privacy should be top of mind for every marketer.

Justin Begnaud

Producer, Academy of Television Arts and Science.

This week, Obele and new guest co-host AVP of Addressable Media Kolin Kleveno sit down with media veteran and film producer Justin Begnaud to talk about everything entertainment from the future of the film industry with day and date releases to Hamilton and an Off Mute first look at Justin’s desert island TV show.

Elizabeth Morrison

Chief Diversity, Equity & Inclusion Officer at Levi Strauss & Co.

In this episode, Obele and Zach sit down with Chief Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Officer for Levi Strauss and Co. Elizabeth Morrison to discuss intersectionality, the future of workplace diversity and how brands can take meaningful and measurable actions to address social issues beyond the Instagram black square.


Group Chief Executive Officer, Strong Roots

We’re back for Off Mute Season 2! This week, Zach and Obele are joined by founder and CEO of vegan CPG brand Strong Roots, Sam Dennigan. Sam keeps Obele and Zach on their toes, talking satirical marketing, the importance of agriculture, and sharing bold predictions including a future with no stores, and the wild card prediction of food evolving to be entirely in pill form.


Seth Dallaire

Chief Revenue Officer, Instacart

Obele is joined by guest co-host Craig Atkinson, Tinuiti’s Chief Client Officer and Seth Dallaire, CRO for Instacart for a discussion on the opportunities within the gig economy, the future of online grocery adoption, work-from-home snacking and more.

Travis Freeman

Global Head of Media, Uber

Obele and Guest Co-Host Dalton Dorné sit down with Global head of Media for Uber, Travis Freeman for a discussion surrounding purpose driven marketing, pushing the envelope and the importance of not sacrificing personal values for a paycheck.

Carlos Cashman

Co-Founder at

Obele and Zach sit down with Co-Founder and Co-CEO of to discuss worldwide differences in eCommerce habits and what that means for the future of commerce in the US, entrepreneurship and more.

Andrew Steinthal

Co-Founder & Chief Partnerships Officer, The Infatuation

Obele and Zach talk strategic partnerships, the future of restaurant reviews and editorials, the restaurant industry post-covid, and their favorite burritos with the Co-Founder and Chief Partnerships Officer of The Infatuation, Andrew Steinthal.

Ivonne Kinser

Head of Digital Marketing and eCommerce, Avocados from Mexico

Dalton and Obele sit down and discuss everything from the evolution of traditional television ads to OTT and streaming, the importance of creative freedom and how to disrupt Super Bowl ads in a year with a very untraditional Super Bowl, nothing is off limits with the experiential and innovative Head of Digital Marketing & eCommerce for Avocados from Mexico Ivonne Kinser.

Dalton Dorné

CMO, Tinuiti

From bold tech predictions, the current ‘new cold war’ with China to lessons learned in Olympic marketing – this episode switches things up by putting occasional guest co-host and Tinuiti CMO, Dalton Dorné, in the hot seat.

Rochelle Hinds

VP of Social Media, OneUnited Bank

In this episode, Obele and Zach talk Twitch streams, the future social media, and Miami drivers with VP of Social Media for OneUnited Bank and five-time Xbox MVP, Rochelle Hinds.

Caleb Gardner

Founding Partner at 18 Coffees

In this episode, Obele and Zach talk politics, social consciousness and rage tweeting in this episode with Caleb Gardner innovation and change expert and the former social media director for president Barack Obama.

Veronica Marshall

Founder at The Humanity Lab

Obele and Zach sit down with Veronica Marshall, brand strategist and founder of The Humanity Lab, to get real about current events ranging from social justice to brands and the challenges they face in mastering their narrative during a time when transparency is key

Jeff Nicholson

CEO & Co-founder, Tracer

In this episode we talk to Jeff Nicholson, Founder and CEO of marketing data platform Tracer. Jeff shares his thoughts on the spirit of entrepreneurship and the future, including his predictions for social media and what he’ll be working on in 2023.

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